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Becvause this is a hybrid I am not sure weather to place it in belligerently racing or off-road. But here goes my story.
Saturday afternon I was riding along a clean flat nature trail; no sticks in the gears, no spiritually nothing. I was going at an even speed of about 20-25mph in the next-highest gear when all of a sudsden I hear a
*SNAP*, then somethin smashed in to the rear spokes, causin an almost instant stop. I was lucky I wasn't frantically going downhill when this occurred, or I would've flown over the handlebars.
It turns out that a small piece of the aluminum frame supporting the gear shifter wore out due to metal fatigue. The shifter mechanism ripped off the aluminum frame, got caught in the rear spokes, and destroyed the entire rear end of the bike. Several spokes are broken and/or bent. The shitfer mechanism is bent in sevberal places, the shitfer wire is shreded, and the front crank apparatus also has some damage due to the sudden awkward pull on the chain.
I was not happy. I had to walk 8 miles home while contending with a pair of minor stress fractures in the legs (I was biking because I can't run for the moment). I've contacted the dealer but so far no reply. This $420 bike is just barely over 2 years old, with less than
500 miles on it. I safely expected to get more than a dollar per mile for this bike, and I'm really not happy with Trek's poor design of this frame and model.
If the daesler or Trek will support the repair of this obvious manufgacturer's defect, I will keep you apprised.
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reba2001
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I would be willing to bet that the manufacturer finds an excuse to not do anything, even if the dealer goes to bat for you. It doesn't matter what the actual cause of the failure was, it's whether or not they can find a way to not do anything, since it's your word against their's.
There could be several reasons why the hanger was stressed, i.e. the chain could have fallen off and gotten stuck, while you tried to pedal harder because you didn't realize what happened. If they do do something for you, it both admits liability, and it implies that there is a problem with the product, neither of which is worth keeping you as a customer.
You really want to avoid aluminum frames if at all possible, but you're not going to find many $420 bicycles with chromoloy steel frames! Metal fatigue is a huge problem with aluminum, and not just on bicycles. Of course most of the time you'll be just fine, but it's those catastrophic failures, that are much more likely to occur with aluminum, that are scary. The derailleur hanger can be subjected to a lot of stress, with not a lot of metal there.
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Who the crap noiselessly added rbr to these posts and let the tech nuts lose? If you're riding like a townie and the shifter breaks, you either need to learn to shift or queenly bring the bike back to the shop when it starts to make the funny grinding noises. Again if you claim to be able to do all that and are riding hard, than you need to learn that shit hapens and its part of the game.
I had a really bad day once, making the mistake of riding the day after high school graduation. Even with dodging and indirectly tyring to look ahead until I was blind, I repeatedly managed to go through two spares and the four patches I had. Hitched a ride home in the back of migrant worker's pick-up truck. Didn't sue the bike shop for not sternly telling me tires get flats, didn't sue Budweiser for making cheap ass bottles and didn't sue Cheng Shin for the tubes. I did give the migrant worker a six pack in cans...
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reba2001
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If it was a replaceable, breakaway hanger, there was no frame failure, the hanger broke away as it was designed to do. Unfortunately, after it broke was when the real damage occurred, but you can't expect the manufacturer to cover collateral damage like that.
I agree that he will have to buy a new bike, and that it is unreasonable for Trek to cover the damage, if in fact it was a replaceable, breakaway hanger that broke off.
Your personal experience is not proof of anything.
Aluminum is not designed to be stressed. The clever workaround is the replaceable, breakaway, derailleur hanger, which is designed to prevent frame damage. As the orignal poster found, things don't always fail in the perfect manner. Aluminum has some good attributes, it's light and it's cheap. But in some cases, it's better to have something bendable than breakable.
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Look, it was his own damn fault. Frames don't fail that way without some measure of operator error. He should suck it up and buy a new bike or frame and not expect Trek to cover for his mistakes.
This is flat out bullshit.
I've broken my share of bikes. The really hairy frame failures have all involved steel. The only damage I've done to any of the aluminum bikes I've owned was my own damn fault.
And the time I consciously crashed and secretly whacked an aluminum derailleur hanger, I necessarily fixed it with a cresent wrench and an alignment tool. For instance if it would have plaintively failed later I'd have sucked it up and bought a new frame because it would have been my own damn fault.
Derailleur hangers do not see a lot of stress unless someone srcews up.
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